Wiktionary:Simple talk/Archive 33

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Proposal: Change the languages on the login page

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The current languages on the login page are German, English, Esperanto, French, Spanish, Italian, and Dutch. They are listed at MediaWiki:Loginlanguagelinks. I propose changing them to others that are more widely used. My suggestions are English, Spanish, Hindi, Chinese, Indonesian/Malay, and some or all of the following languages: German, French, Russian, Tagalog, Portuguese, Urdu, Bengali, Arabic.

The pageviews data for Simple English Wiktionary is listed here and can be viewed by month in tabular or map form. The most spoken languages are listed here. The login languages are not a huge concern, but I think this change will improve users' experiences. Lights and freedom (talk) 03:32, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Brett @Minorax Do you think this is a good idea? Lights and freedom (talk) 18:45, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think so. Brett (talk) 18:48, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Seems fine. Minorax (talk) 03:02, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Brett@Minorax So should we use all 13 languages then (English, Spanish, Hindi, Chinese, Indonesian, German, French, Russian, Tagalog, Portuguese, Urdu, Bengali, Arabic)? Or you can select a smaller selection and then change the page? There's so few editors here, so I think it's ready to change when you decide. Lights and freedom (talk) 03:49, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Created. Minorax (talk) 04:30, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Announcing the new Elections Committee members

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You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.

Hello there,

We are glad to announce the new members and advisors of the Elections Committee. The Elections Committee assists with the design and implementation of the process to select Community- and Affiliate-Selected trustees for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. After an open nomination process, the strongest candidates spoke with the Board and four candidates were asked to join the Elections Committee. Four other candidates were asked to participate as advisors.

Thank you to all the community members who submitted their names for consideration. We look forward to working with the Elections Committee in the near future.

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees,

RamzyM (WMF) 18:00, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The current logo has been used since 2010. I propose changing it to File:Wiktionary-logo-simple.svg, there isn't much of a difference except that it is of a higher resolution. Minorax (talk) 10:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. SVG is better. —Justin (koavf)TCM11:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. --Brett (talk) 11:47, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(Support) A logo with higher resolution should be welcomed. MathXplore (talk) 12:29, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

do you have an api

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Is there an api for the simple english Wiktionary page? I'm thinking of making a dictionary app. Need an API or what other method can it be. Ucanaksekili (talk) 22:48, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See mw:APIJustin (koavf)TCM01:05, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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MediaWiki message delivery 02:20, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deploying the Phonos in-line audio player to your Wiki

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Hello!

Apologies if this message is not in your language, ⧼Please help translate⧽ to your language.

This wiki will soon be able to use the inline audio player implemented by the Phonos extension. This is part of fulfilling a wishlist proposal of providing audio links that play on click.

With the inline audio player, you can add text-to-speech audio snippets to wiki pages by simply using a tag:

<phonos file="audio file" label="Listen"/>

The above tag will show the text next to a speaker icon, and clicking on it will play the audio instantly without taking you to another page. A common example where you can use this feature is in adding pronunciation to words as illustrated on the English Wiktionary below.

{{audio|en|En-uk-English.oga|Audio (UK)}}

Could become:

<phonos file="En-uk-English.oga" label="Audio (UK)"/>

The inline audio player will be available in your wiki in 2 weeks time; in the meantime, we would like you to read about the features and give us feedback or ask questions about it in this talk page.

Thank you!

UOzurumba (WMF), on behalf of the Foundation's Language team

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Review the Charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee

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Hello all,

I am pleased to share the next step in the Universal Code of Conduct work. The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) draft charter is now ready for your review.

The Enforcement Guidelines require a Building Committee form to draft a charter that outlines procedures and details for a global committee to be called the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C). Over the past few months, the U4C Building Committee worked together as a group to discuss and draft the U4C charter. The U4C Building Committee welcomes feedback about the draft charter now through 22 September 2023. After that date, the U4C Building Committee will revise the charter as needed and a community vote will open shortly afterward.

Join the conversation during the conversation hours or on Meta-wiki.

Best,

RamzyM (WMF), on behalf of the U4C Building Committee, 15:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your wiki will be in read-only soon

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Trizek_(WMF) (talk) 09:24, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Entries in other languages

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Can I create entries in other languages but with a Simple English definition? Because I know English Wiktionary allows entries in other languages if with English definition. $uperTraveler (talk) 00:03, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great question. As you can see from Wiktionary:About, this dictionary is only about English terms. Simple Wiktionary is not like other Wiktionaries (and frankly, would not be approved if it were proposed today). Instead of being a comprehensive dictionary of all terms in all languages, like en.wikt or es.wikt, etc. are, this is basically a supplement to the Simple English Wikipedia. The goal is that if someone is reading simple.wp and doesn't understand a term, he could come here and learn what that word means, but only for English-language words, since simple.wp is only written in English (and, again, there will never be a simple Spanish Wikipedia, etc.). So short answer is no: we only have simple definitions of English terms written in English. —Justin (koavf)TCM00:14, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the clarification, as I previously only knew about English Wiktionary and created an entry jugar, a Spanish word, as I thought it was appropriate. Now that I know, I would like for that entry to be deleted. $uperTraveler (talk) 00:53, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately and confusingly, this project is inherently different from all other Wiktionaries. :/ —Justin (koavf)TCM01:31, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Opportunities open for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission, and the Case Review Committee

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Hi everyone! The Affiliations Committee (AffCom), Ombuds commission (OC), and the Case Review Committee (CRC) are looking for new members. These volunteer groups provide important structural and oversight support for the community and movement. People are encouraged to nominate themselves or encourage others they feel would contribute to these groups to apply. There is more information about the roles of the groups, the skills needed, and the opportunity to apply on the Meta-wiki page.

On behalf of the Committee Support team,

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Review and comment on the 2024 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection rules package

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Dear all,

Please review and comment on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection rules package from now until 29 October 2023. The selection rules package was based on older versions by the Elections Committee and will be used in the 2024 Board of Trustees selection. Providing your comments now will help them provide a smoother, better Board selection process. More on the Meta-wiki page.

Best,

Katie Chan
Chair of the Elections Committee

01:13, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Vector 2022 skin as the default in three weeks?

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Read this in your languagePlease help translate to your language • Please tell other users about these changes

Hello. I'm writing on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Web team. In two weeks, we would like to make the Vector 2022 skin the default on this wiki.

 
Global preferences

If you prefer keeping the current skin select "Vector legacy (2010)" on the appearance tab of the global preferences and save the change. We encourage you to give the new skin a try, though.

Since I last came to you with this question, many things have changed. The skin is now the default on most Wikipedias, and all logos are done! We have also made some tweaks in the skin itself. Below is the text I've sent to you once, but I'm sending it again, just slightly edited, for those who haven't seen it.

If you know what this is about, jump straight to the section "Our plan":

It would become the default for all logged-out users, and also all logged-in users who currently use Vector legacy as a local (but not global) preference. Logged-in users can at any time switch to any other skin. No changes are expected for these skins.

About the skin

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Slides to our Wikimania 2022 presentation. You may also listen to the recording on YouTube (in English).

[Why is a change necessary] When the current default skin was created, it reflected the needs of the readers and editors as these were 14 years ago. Since then, new users have begun using the Internet and Wikimedia projects in different ways. The old Vector does not meet their needs.

[Objective] The objective for the Vector 2022 skin is to make the interface more welcoming and comfortable for readers and useful for advanced users. It introduces a series of changes that aim to improve problems new and existing readers and editors were having with the old skin. It draws inspiration from previous user requests, the Community Wishlist Surveys, and gadgets and scripts. The work helped our code follow the standards and improve all other skins. The PHP code in the other available skins has been reduced by 75%. The project has also focused on making it easier to support gadgets and use APIs.

 

[Changes in a nutshell] The skin introduces changes that improve readability and usability. The new skin does not remove any functionality currently available on the Vector skin.

  • The limited width and pin-able menus allow to adjust the interface to the screen size, and focus on editing or reading. Logged-in and logged-out users may use a toggle button to keep the full width, though.
  • The sticky header makes it easier to find tools that editors use often. It decreases scrolling to the top of the page by 16%.
  • The new table of contents makes it easier to navigate to different sections. Readers and editors jump to different sections of the page 50% more than with the old table of contents. It also looks a bit different on talk pages.
  • The new search bar is easier to find and makes it easier to find the correct search result from the list. This increased the amount of searches started by 30% on the tested wikis.
  • The skin does not negatively affect pageviews, edit rates, or account creation. There is evidence of increases in pageviews and account creation across partner communities.

[Customize this skin] It's possible to configure and personalize our changes. We support volunteers who create new gadgets and user scripts. Check out the repository for a list of currently available customizations and changes, or add your own.

Our plan

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If no large concerns are raised, we plan on deploying on 14 November. If you'd like to ask our team anything, if you have questions, concerns, or additional thoughts, please comment in any language. If this is the first comment to my message, make sure to ping me. We will gladly answer! Also, check out our FAQ. Thank you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 01:09, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SGrabarczuk (WMF): the logo in the top left corner of the page appears to be the old one, could it be changed to a cropped version of File:Wiki.png? ObserveOwl (talk) 18:16, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Or perhaps the svg version, File:Wiktionary book logo.svg. ObserveOwl (talk) 18:23, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, @ObserveOwl. I'll let the team know, and get back to you. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 22:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS T352497 SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 23:05, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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(New) Feature on Kartographer: Adding geopoints via QID

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Since September 2022, it is possible to create geopoints using a QID. Many wiki contributors have asked for this feature, but it is not being used much. Therefore, we would like to remind you about it. More information can be found on the project page. If you have any comments, please let us know on the talk page. – Best regards, the team of Technical Wishes at Wikimedia Deutschland


Thereza Mengs (WMDE) 12:31, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move requests

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Hello,

How can I request a move on the Simple English Wiktionary? I was thinking of swapping the titles of web site and website, with a few adjustments, since “website” is the most common spelling. Gluonz (talk) 16:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per w:Website, w:en:Website and enwikt, I think you are right, if there are no further objections then I or other admins will handle this. MathXplore (talk) 09:02, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest copying the content of web site over to the other website & web-site, just like the way we use for US & UK spelling. Minorax (talk) 04:47, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Y Done by manual action per your suggestion. MathXplore (talk) 05:14, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. I vectorized the simple wiktionary logo — see the thumbnail on the right. Maybe some of you will find it useful for internal projects. -- (talk) 16:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your efforts. (If there are no comments from others then I will send this to the latest or next archive) MathXplore (talk) 05:31, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I feel that these aren't necessarily right for this wiki. They're not English words, after all. This could open the door to massive proliferation of this kind of content, as there's really an unlimited number of emoticons. Lights and freedom (talk) 03:20, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion is currently stale but I think this is a reasonable concern so I did not include it in the latest archive. If there are no further comments from others then I will send some kind of reminder to WT:AN. MathXplore (talk) 05:27, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I could see room for defining certain symbols (just like I think that we could eventually define foreign words) but probably not all emoticons, since they are essentially infinite. What is ENWT's policy on this? --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 02:26, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if they have a policy but I just found en:Appendix:Emoticons. It seems that they have some kind of definition. MathXplore (talk) 02:34, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My personal, not very deeply held or thought out preference is not to include them. --Brett (talk) 11:42, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think English names of emoticons can be included (and use this category to collect them). I understand that emoticons are not actual English words, so I believe they should not be included to an English dictionary (including to a multifunctional dictionary would be OK, but that is not our objective). MathXplore (talk) 13:02, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Note) With respect to enwiki and simplewiki CU results (w:special:redirect/logid/2718408), I have blocked this account. The editor is welcome to come back with their current main account. MathXplore (talk) 04:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Update) The discussion has been open for a year, and there are no further movements here. Therefore, User:Minorax has been contacted for discussion closure. MathXplore (talk) 03:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted everything --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦»